The analogy of Chick and Egg & Lumberjack

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ちしょう
Chisho

The following  is based on the contents of “Saṃyukta Āgama Sutra 10-263“.

 

It makes the content of sutras conversational like a group chat. Buddha and his disciples are talking.

What is “no Kleshas”?

弟子1
disciple1

Those who are getting awareness have “no Kleshas”.

Kleshas is, for example, desires ,anger, ignorance and etc.

 

Everyone vaguely thinks so, right?

弟子2
disciple2

I agree.

Conversely, People who have Kleshas are not gettinng awakeness.

弟子1
disciple1

Yes, I agree.

What do you think, Budda?

お釈迦さん
Buddha

What is awakeness……

What is No kleshas…..

 

So, do you know what is end of Kleshas?

do you see what is sublimation of Kleshas?

What kind of person who is getting awakensee?

What kind of person who have no Kleashas?

 

弟子1
disciple1

What?

What do I need to know to get awakeness?

What do I need to see to get awakeness?

お釈迦さん
Buddha

Let’s change your perspective.

 

For example, here is my body.

can you see it?

弟子1
disciple1

Yes, of course.

弟子2
disciple2

I can see your body.

お釈迦さん
Buddha

What is the body?

弟子1
disciple1

The body is the body. I can’t say anything else.

弟子2
disciple2

???

Sorry… I don’t understand your question.

お釈迦さん
Buddha

Ok. Shall we change the question?

Why is your body here now?

 

弟子1
disciple1

Um… Because I was born.

弟子2
disciple2

I build my body to eat, drink and so on.

 

お釈迦さん
Buddha

That’s all?

Change the question again.

What is your body made of?

弟子2
disciple2

Bones, muscles, internal organs, blood and cell……

I can’t say enough.

For example, there are 60 trillion cells. I can’t count them one by one.

お釈迦さん
Buddha

That’s all?

弟子2
disciple2

Of course, No!

We cannot live without food.

Therefore, it can be said that it is made from food.

弟子1
disciple1

If you can say it, I can also say that we cannot live without air, water and so on.

弟子2
disciple2

Yes……Huh?

We need oxygen in the air.

Oxygen is produced by trees.

Trees need water, sun and so on.

弟子1
disciple1

It’s endless.

弟子2
disciple2

But it is essential to us.

お釈迦さん
Buddha

Change the question again.

What will happen to your body from now?

弟子1
disciple1

what happens to this body?

I don’t know what will happen to me……

But I am sure that we will die.

I know that  my body will be broken someday.

弟子2
disciple2

Anything will be breaking.

Also, my body will be broken someday.

It means to die.

お釈迦さん
Buddha

How are you going to die?

弟子1
disciple1

It means “getting old”. right?

弟子2
disciple2

As we get older, our physical functions will become weak gradually. Our power, beauty and etc will fade.

But when we are young, we grow and grow.

お釈迦さん
Buddha

How will it fade?
How does it grow?
How does it change?

弟子2
disciple2

Cell division?

弟子1
disciple1

Wrinkling is also a change. Being unable to carry heavy objects is also a change. It is also a change that e won’t be able to do what we used to be able to do.

 

On the contrary, it is also a change that acne heals. Being able to grasp things is also a change.It is also a change that we will be able to do things we couldn’t do before.

弟子2
disciple2

Year. It means change.

弟子1
disciple1

Every day my condition is different. My physical condition is changing day by day.

弟子2
disciple2

Looking at cells, many cells are born and die every day. it’s metabolism.

お釈迦さん
Buddha

I see.

Now let’s think other things except for body.

弟子1
disciple1

The other thing?

お釈迦さん
Buddha

For example, let’s talk about mind.

It can be said to be thought, spirit, or heart.

 

Anyway, here is my mind.

Can you see it?

 

弟子2
disciple2

Let me see.

umm……I can’t look at my mind.

弟子1
disciple1

Watch your mind.

It doesn’t mean visually.

We can see our mind.

お釈迦さん
Buddha

Think.

So, what is the mind?

Why is your mind here now?

What is your mind made of?

What will happen to your mind from now?

ちしょう
Chisho

Let’s get back on topic.

 

What kind of person who is getting awakensee?

What kind of person who have no Kleashas?

お釈迦さん
Buddha

I would say, the person who see as “it” have no Kleshas.

弟子1
disciple1

What is “it”?

We have answered your question.

So, we have already got awareness!?

弟子2
disciple2

No, No, No……

That’s not true.

弟子1
disciple1

We answered his question firmly.
We understood the meaning of the question and answered it.

弟子2
disciple2

I am sure that we could talk. I understood the meaning of the words.

But, how can you say that we are getting awareness, and have no Kleshas?

お釈迦さん
Buddha

Ok, let me give you an analogy.

 

For example, here is a chicken egg.

Did you know that chicks hatch from eggs?

弟子1
disciple1

Yes, I do know it.

弟子2
disciple2

That’s a fertilized egg.

弟子1
disciple1

A fertilized egg?

Doesn’t any egg hatch?

弟子2
disciple2

Only fertilized eggs hatch into chicks.

The eggs we usually eat are unfertilized eggs.

弟子1
disciple1

So, fertilized eggs have chicks.

The egg that Buddha said is the fertilized egg, right?

 

Anyway, we know that chicks are born from eggs.

お釈迦さん
Buddha

Yes, you know it.

If you only know it,  will chicks hatch from eggs?

弟子1
disciple1

I know at least that eggs must be warmed.

お釈迦さん
Buddha

The chick breaks the shell of the egg and hatches.

That’s why?

Because it is warmed.

 

Kleshas change what you call “No Kleshas” naturally.

That’s why?

Because of practice.

弟子2
disciple2

Just knowing is not enough. It need practice.

It is not until I warm the egg, it will hatch.

Conversely, the chick will not hatch unless the egg is warmed.

弟子1
disciple1

Practice is like warm the egg.

In short, we should warm. It is practice.

So, I know that I should warm it.

 

Just warm! Easy.

ちしょう
Chisho

In practice, for example, it is very difficult to control the temperature for egg.

弟子2
disciple2

It’s easier said than done.

弟子1
disciple1

I have knowledge that if I should warm an egg, the chicks will hatch. But I have never actually warmed an egg.

弟子2
disciple2

I must break my shell like a chick breaking the shell of an egg!!!

So, we need practice! We must do practice!

Is that so!?

お釈迦さん
Buddha

Even if the chick doesn’t decide it, the chick breaks the shell of the egg and hatches naturally,.

That’s why?

Because it is warmed.

 

Kleshas change what you call “No Kleshas” or “Awareness” naturally.

That’s why?

Because of practice.

弟子2
disciple2

What?

弟子1
disciple1

The chick in the egg is not thinking whether it will be born or not.
Regardless of what the chicks want, they will naturally hatch if they are warmed up.

弟子2
disciple2

Oh…..

弟子1
disciple1

Maybe we shouldn’t think too much, such as we have to do practice and we are doing practice.

弟子2
disciple2

It would be unnatural if the chick came out of the egg saying, “I have to break this shell” and “I’m breaking this shell right now!”

お釈迦さん
Buddha

Kleshas change what you call “No Kleshas” or “Awareness” naturally.

That’s why?

Because of practice.

弟子1
disciple1

If so, when?

弟子2
disciple2

How long should I practice?

お釈迦さん
Buddha

Ok. Let’s talk about it using an analogy.

This is the story of a certain lumberjack and his apprentice.

 

This lumberjack could handle an ax very skillfully. He is professional.

 

He taught the technique to his apprentice carefully. How to grip, how to swing, how to cut and so on.

 

His apprentice also followed his guidance and swung their axes very hard.

弟子2
disciple2

Yeah! We are also taught by Buddha.

弟子1
disciple1

Once he’s taught by teacher how to swing an ax, all he have to do is swing the ax.

お釈迦さん
Buddha

Day after day, his apprentices followed his instructions and swung their axes.

 

His apprentices got blisters on his hands.The skin on his hands became thick and hard.

 

His apprentices didn’t notice such a small change.

But the lumberjack was watching his hands and fingers.

弟子1
disciple1

So, When would his apprentices become a professional lumberjack?

お釈迦さん
Buddha

It happened one day. The apprentice’s ax is broken.

At that time, the lumberjack recognized his apprentice as a professional lumberjack.

弟子1
disciple1

In short, when the ax is broken, I will be recognized as a professional, won’t be?

Well, in my case, when will my ax be broken? When I will be recognized as master buddhist monk?

お釈迦さん
Buddha

The lumberjack who is in a position to teach watches apprentice’s hands and fingers. He doesn’t know whether the ax will break today or tomorrow.

 

But He do know that one day the ax will break right.

弟子2
disciple2

He doesn’t know when it will break, but he knows it will break someday.

弟子1
disciple1

Well then, do we have to wait until the time comes to break it?

弟子2
disciple2

We can’t achieve it by just waiting, right?

弟子1
disciple1

It is wrong to think that all we have to do is wait……

お釈迦さん
Buddha

Kleshas change what you call “No Kleshas” or “Awareness” naturally.

 

No one knows if it will be today or tomorrow.

However, my disciples know that Kleshas will change what you call “No Kleshas” or “Awareness”.

 

That’s why?

Because of practice.

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